#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

Listen to this episode from Lex Fridman Podcast on Spotify. Ezra Klein is one of the most influential voices representing the left-wing of American politics. He is a columnist for the NY Times and host of The Ezra Klein Show. Derek Thompson is a writer at The Atlantic and host of the Plain English podcast. Together they have written a new book titled Abundance that lays out a set of ideas for the future of the Democratic party.Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep462-sdSee below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc.Transcript:https://lexfridman.com/ezra-klein-and-derek-thompson-transcriptCONTACT LEX:Feedback - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/surveyAMA - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/amaHiring - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiringOther - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contactEPISODE LINKS:Abundance (new book): https://amzn.to/4iZ1S8JEzra's X: https://x.com/ezraklein/Ezra's Instagram: https://instagram.com/ezrakleinEzra's YouTube: https://youtube.com/EzraKleinShowThe New York Times: https://nytimes.com/by/ezra-kleinDerek's X: https://x.com/dkthompPlain English (podcast): https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/plain-english-with-derek-thompsonThe Atlantic: https://theatlantic.com/author/derek-thompson/SPONSORS:To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts:Call of Duty: First-person shooter video game.Go to https://callofduty.com/warzoneLMNT: Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix.Go to https://drinkLMNT.com/lexAG1: All-in-one daily nutrition drinks.Go to https://drinkag1.com/lexShopify: Sell stuff online.Go to https://shopify.com/lexOUTLINE:(00:00) - Introduction(03:17) - Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections(10:33) - Left-wing vs right-wing politics(19:54) - Political leaders on the left and the right(44:29) - Internal political divisions(47:29) - AOC(58:50) - Political realignment(1:10:32) - Supply-side progressivism(1:17:42) - Wealth redistribution(1:27:50) - Housing problem(1:44:09) - Regulation and deregulation(2:00:43) - DOGE, Elon, and Trump(2:59:46) - Sam Harris(3:09:24) - Future of AmericaPODCAST LINKS:- Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast- Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr- Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8- RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/- Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4- Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclipsSOCIAL LINKS:- X: https://x.com/lexfridman- Instagram: https://instagram.com/lexfridman- TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lexfridman- LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/lexfridman- Facebook: https://facebook.com/lexfridman- Patreon: https://patreon.com/lexfridman- Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman- Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman