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Still Selling Feminism: Our Response to Diary of a CEO

Listen to this episode from Psychobabble on Spotify. In this special joint episode of Psychobabble and Men Are Good, Tom Golden, Janice Fiamengo, and I take on The Diary of a CEO’s viral “feminism debate” featuring Louise Perry, Erica Komisar, and Deborah Frances-White.This debate has racked up millions of views across one of the world’s most influential podcast and YouTube platforms. With over 12 million subscribers and more than a billion streams, host Steven Bartlett commands global reach and cultural clout. It was framed as a bold debate on feminism and widely sold as a serious “clash of ideas.” A feminist reckoning. But we had to ask: was it really? Should we feel grateful to feminism—if so, for what? Is feminism something that started good and went bad? Are we seeing a pendulum swing? We also break down the episode’s obsession with autonomy, the cult of consent, and why “what women want” is the wrong foundation for a social ethic. 👉 Click below to join the rest of the conversation—where it really heats up. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hannahspier.substack.com/subscribe



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Listen to this episode from Psychobabble on Spotify. In this special joint episode of Psychobabble and Men Are Good, Tom Golden, Janice Fiamengo, and I take on The Diary of a CEO’s viral “feminism debate” featuring Louise Perry, Erica Komisar, and Deborah Frances-White.This debate has racked up millions of views across one of the world’s most influential podcast and YouTube platforms. With over 12 million subscribers and more than a billion streams, host Steven Bartlett commands global reach and cultural clout. It was framed as a bold debate on feminism and widely sold as a serious “clash of ideas.” A feminist reckoning. But we had to ask: was it really? Should we feel grateful to feminism—if so, for what? Is feminism something that started good and went bad? Are we seeing a pendulum swing? We also break down the episode’s obsession with autonomy, the cult of consent, and why “what women want” is the wrong foundation for a social ethic. 👉 Click below to join the rest of the conversation—where it really heats up. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hannahspier.substack.com/subscribe



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Still Selling Feminism: Our Response to Diary of a CEO

Listen to this episode from Psychobabble on Spotify. In this special joint episode of Psychobabble and Men Are Good, Tom Golden, Janice Fiamengo, and I take on The Diary of a CEO’s viral “feminism debate” featuring Louise Perry, Erica Komisar, and Deborah Frances-White.This debate has racked up millions of views across one of the world’s most influential podcast and YouTube platforms. With over 12 million subscribers and more than a billion streams, host Steven Bartlett commands global reach and cultural clout. It was framed as a bold debate on feminism and widely sold as a serious “clash of ideas.” A feminist reckoning. But we had to ask: was it really? Should we feel grateful to feminism—if so, for what? Is feminism something that started good and went bad? Are we seeing a pendulum swing? We also break down the episode’s obsession with autonomy, the cult of consent, and why “what women want” is the wrong foundation for a social ethic. 👉 Click below to join the rest of the conversation—where it really heats up. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hannahspier.substack.com/subscribe

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