Is It Possible To Get Over Church Hurt?

Listen to this episode from Lights On with Carl Lentz on Spotify. In this powerful episode of Lights On, Carl Lentz sits down with longtime friend Andrew Simila for a raw, vulnerable conversation about healing after church hurt. The two reflect on their years of ministry at Hillsong, the fallout that followed, and the emotional wreckage left behind.Andrew opens up about the personal cost of staying loyal, the silence that followed the scandal, and the hard work it took to rebuild from rock bottom. Carl shares how one unexpected phone call with Andrew became the turning point in his own healing journey.Together, they explore what it really means to forgive, grow, and show up healthier than before—not for anyone else, but for yourself.This episode of Lights On is a gripping reminder that restoration is possible, but only if you’re willing to do the work.Chapter Markers:00:00 - The Impact of Church Hurt 07:55 - Restoration Is Possible — But It Takes Work 15:30 - How Coaching Triggered a Healing Journey 23:06 - Trying to Rebuild Life After Hillsong 30:20 - Comfort vs. Growth: The Coaching Mindset 38:30 - What 'Church Hurt' Really Means 45:12 - The Real Work Behind Reconciliation 52:06 - Victim Mentality vs. Ownership 59:27 - How to Rewrite Your Story 1:06:57 - Digging Deep to Heal for Real GrowthSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.