“Playing with fire”

Listen to this episode from Deadline: White House on Spotify. August 26th, 2025, 4pm: A ratcheting up pressure campaign on the Federal Reserve: Donald Trump says he’s removing Fed Governor Lisa Cook. Nicolle Wallace discusses the implications for democracy as Trump’s second term looks more and more like a descent into authoritarianism. Later, an update on Congress’s investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and more on the states wading into the redistricting fights. For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewhTo listen to this show and other MSNBC podcasts without ads, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.