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I'll ask around about Dataform, but I think it was probably a combination of all of the things you listed. I was close to it and there were many pretty sad customers who had to figure out a plan, and dbt Cloud being a pretty compromised alternative. Felt like PMF, or more so than dbt Cloud has ever really attained (IMO.. I tried both extensively) Another way of thinking: If dbt wasn't buoyed along by their community, they'd have discovered what Dataform did way back then, that there isn't an effective business model to support this. > Crypto was mostly a waste because the foundation didn't have much value. For data stuff, is that true? Perhaps more than we'd like to admit, but less so than crypto, I'd hope. Big if true! ps I would love your take on the cascade epilogue. I've largely taken their side of the argument ("The fracturing of BI" etc) but not found resonance in the slacks of the world. https://www.cascade.io/epilogue/the-data-and-analytics-market



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I'll ask around about Dataform, but I think it was probably a combination of all of the things you listed. I was close to it and there were many pretty sad customers who had to figure out a plan, and dbt Cloud being a pretty compromised alternative. Felt like PMF, or more so than dbt Cloud has ever really attained (IMO.. I tried both extensively) Another way of thinking: If dbt wasn't buoyed along by their community, they'd have discovered what Dataform did way back then, that there isn't an effective business model to support this. > Crypto was mostly a waste because the foundation didn't have much value. For data stuff, is that true? Perhaps more than we'd like to admit, but less so than crypto, I'd hope. Big if true! ps I would love your take on the cascade epilogue. I've largely taken their side of the argument ("The fracturing of BI" etc) but not found resonance in the slacks of the world. https://www.cascade.io/epilogue/the-data-and-analytics-market



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I'll ask around about Dataform, but I think it was probably a combination of all of the things you listed. I was close to it and there were many pretty sad customers who had to figure out a plan, and dbt Cloud being a pretty compromised alternative. Felt like PMF, or more so than dbt Cloud has ever really attained (IMO.. I tried both extensively) Another way of thinking: If dbt wasn't buoyed along by their community, they'd have discovered what Dataform did way back then, that there isn't an effective business model to support this. > Crypto was mostly a waste because the foundation didn't have much value. For data stuff, is that true? Perhaps more than we'd like to admit, but less so than crypto, I'd hope. Big if true! ps I would love your take on the cascade epilogue. I've largely taken their side of the argument ("The fracturing of BI" etc) but not found resonance in the slacks of the world. https://www.cascade.io/epilogue/the-data-and-analytics-market

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